Dabo Swinney recently spent some time with Greg McElroy on the “Always College Football” podcast, and covered a wide array of issues, including what he’d change in college football.

The Clemson coach started with how to govern the sport.

“I would blow it all up, it’s not relevant anymore,” Swinney said. “Honestly, it never really was great. We’re at a point now where it’s just dysfunctional and nobody would operate a business, no one, the way we operate in college football.”

Swinney said he would change the entire governance structure.

“It’s just not the same for Alabama as it is, I don’t want to throw anybody out there, non-Power 5 U., it’s just not the same,” Swinney said. “It’s different. You have 100,000-seat stadiums versus 30,000-seat stadiums. There’s a lot that comes with that.”

Because there’s such a bureaucratic process, Swinney said, “You’re going to lose every time,” or it’ll take 2 years, or something bad happening to create change.

Beyond the varying levels in college football, there are other issues with other sports and whether they should be on balance with football.

“The intention is good, but the execution of it is not,” Swinney said. “… I would create some criteria and here’s this world right here and I would separate football, honestly. I would create some type of situation where you have a commissioner, and a board and things could be streamlined and things could be efficient.”

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